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- >How about above instead of
- >
- >> <dd><a HREF="wais://quake.think.com/INFO" INDEX=1>search</a>
- >
- >using
- >
- >> <dd><a HREF="wais://quake.think.com/INFO" RELATIONSHIP=SEARCHME>search</a>
-
- Sure... I don't have any strong opinions about the syntax, except that
- RELATIONSHIP is longer than 8 characters, and that will be an issue
- with some SGML parsers.
-
- This opens up the discussion of link semantics from a while ago. Some
- folks suggested a TYPE or ACTION or RELATIONSHIP attribute on anchors:
-
- SEE (the default) see HREF, i.e. this anchor refers to HREF
- INCLUDE include HREF at this point in the document (for quoting)
- REPLACE replace the anchor text with HREF (another quoting mechanism)
- AUGMENT display HREF along with this document (for figures, etc.)
- SEARCH search HREF and display the results
-
- You could have zillions of options here: DEFINE (HREF defines this anchor),
- UPDATE (HREF is a new version of this document), TRANSLATE (HREF is
- some converted form of this document). But I suggest we call the attribute
- ACTION, and only create a new one when there is a user-interface impact.
- So the ACTION attribute is a hint from the author on how to display
- the document. That way, all the DEFINE, UPDATE, TRANSLATE, etc fall under
- SEE above.
-
- >The argument for the W3 model is that often the user will want to search
- >or not search a single index, and he doesn't want two operations: one to
- >select the fact that he wants to search (click) and one to search
- >(typetypetyepe return). He just wants one.
-
- But in practice, it's the same: if I quote a wais source from this
- mail message, you'll have to 1) traverse the link to the index,
- and 2) search the index.
-
-
- > After all,
- >if he clicks on a gopher index link, what does he get? a serach panel.
- >And what is the difference between that and a serachable document?
- >Only speed of display. If the serachable document can come up as fast as
- >a search panel, then there is no contest. If not, there is.
- >
- >In the long term the search will become (if my philosophising of
- >the oher day comes true) an instance of a class of search query, for which
- >an editor will exist if the client supports it. So searches with
- >toggle buttons and radio buttons and stuff will be possible,
- >and a gopher serach and W3 search will be subclasses.
-
- [Ever seen Dynatext? It supports query dialogs of this sort...]
-
- Ah... this is a perspective that I hadn't thought of: that the
- gopher search panel is analagous to the WWW index "cover page."
-
- I was thinking of a model where in stead of a link from document X
- to index Y and then another to search results document Z, the link goes
- from X to Z, and searching the index is part of traversing the link.
-
- It makes sense to me to have the links mirror protocol transactions.
- In other words, if we have a two step protocol:
-
- client: "I want to do a search."
- server: "OK... here's the query form."
- client: "Here's the filled-out query form."
- server: "OK... here are the results."
-
- Then the WWW model of "searchable documents" (query forms) makes sense.
-
- But currently, we just have one step protocols:
-
- client: "I want to do a search. Here's what I'm interested in..."
- server: "OK... here are the results..."
-
- So as long as the client can do all the preparation for the query
- without help from the server, we should not penalize users with an
- extra network round trip.
-
- I don't think the network will ever be a non-issue.
-
- >An important addition is just a document-wide
- ><LINK HREF="wais://quake.think.com/INFO" RELATIONSHIP=SEARCHME>
- >empty element which makes a document searchable, directing seraches
- >to a given index. Similarly RELATIONSHIP=GLOSSARY would
- >allow double-clicked words to be looked up in a remote glossary.
- >
- >This would solve the problem with WAIS source files, in that their hypertext
- >representation would have such a link to the index, so the source file itself
- >appears searchable. There are lots of places where this would be neat.
-
- Sure... we need to treat <ISINDEX> as shorthand for
- <A NAME="k" HREF=_this_document_ ACTION=SEARCH></a>
-
- As for making it global to the document, you could just treat the
- first SEARCH anchor as the default index to search. In the linemode
- browser, you could type "k words" to search the default index,
- or "7 k words" to search the index assocated with anchor 7. In a GUI
- browser, you could have a search text area, and a search button. The
- search button would be inactive unless there are SEARCH anchors. Then
- it would default to the first one, and clicking any other SEARCH anchor
- would just "steer" the search button towards that index.
-
- Dan
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